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Sanctus de Alba |
Hunting Lodge in Loxley |
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Is there any evidence as to when or which earl of huntingdon built a hunting-lodge in this location?
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also, is it still there. |
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nybor edoh |
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I don't know when it was built or which Earl of Huntingdon had it built, but I have seen a map which shows where it was located. I wouldn't have
thought it is still there now though.
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Graham P Kirkby |
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The hunting lodge belonging to Waltheof, the Earl of Huntingdon was there at the time of the Norman Conguest but has long gone although
there are many others round about as the hunting is very good and people still shoot the grouse today. It was in the village of Hallam, which adjoined the
Roman road, known as Long Causey, leading from Buxton to Sheffield to Wattling Street (near Robin Hood's well) and was easily approached from that road.
(It is close to Hathersage)
"Hallam Head is well above the 900 feet contour-line and other parts of the manor of Hallam rise to 1450 feet, where they join the
Peak of Derbyshire. The manor of Hallam also has hills on its north and north-east. Hallam had extensive moors of heather, ling and bilberry which covered its
western half; and in addition, it had more than four square miles of woodland, in later years known as Fulwood.
"Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance."
W. Clement Stone
Last Edited By: Graham P Kirkby
01/30/08 13:15:36.
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"Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance."
W. Clement Stone |
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Graham P Kirkby |
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"Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance."
W. Clement Stone |
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Sanctus de Alba |
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You Sir, deserve a medal, in recognition of your thorough research into the Robin Hood legend. Thank you for this most valuable information.
Sanctus de Alba (aka. nybor edoh) |
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Graham P Kirkby |
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Thank you nybor edoh. I notice Walter T Hall mentions that the Earl of Shrewsbury was the local landowner around Hallam and Loxley and this is something I have
never investigated but perhaps now may be the time to do it. I don't suppose you know anything about him do you?
"Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance."
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1981Marcus |
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There was no Earl of Shrewsbury between 1102 and 1442; presumably he's referring to a period after 1442.
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Graham P Kirkby |
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Waltheof was early (Conquest) and that is the period Walter Hall was talking about. I was thinking about Robert of Bellême, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury who belonged
to the house of Montgomery with connections in Wales. He seems an interesting character. I wondered who administered Hallam for him, this was in the days of
Henry I, when he made quite a commotion and was exiled and I hear stories of Robin Hood killing his Lord. I have often wondered who that might be, probably
someone put there by Belleme? I would love to know more.
P.S. Something has clicked in my memory and I am sure it was an early Belleme who plotted against the Conqueror and he involved Waltheof at a wedding feast, and it Waltheof's confession to the Conqueror that led to his beheading?
"Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance."
W. Clement Stone
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1981Marcus |
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That would be the Earls' Revolt, a plot between Waltheof and the Earls of Hereford and East Anglia. No immediate members of de Belleme's family there,
but it's perfectly possible that there was some kind of relationship.
De Belleme, of course, lent his name to a few more recent Robin Hood villains. Isenbart de Belame in Gilbert's "Robin Hood" is referred to as having an infamous grandfather who is clearly supposed to be Robert de Belleme; Isenbart became the Isambart de Belame of Vivian's "Adventures", from whom there's a direct line to the satanic Simon de Belleme in "Robin of Sherwood". |
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