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lady archer |
Best Robin Hood film? |
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In your opinion, what's the best Robin Hood film, and why?
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presterjohn1 |
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It's not an easy question to answer because there are a lot of different Robin Hood films and many of them are quite good in their own way, however different they may be from each other in tone or content.
For me, the best version (because I like both the tone and the content so much) is ROBIN & MARIAN (1975) starring Sean Connery as Robin, Audrey Hepburn as Marian and Robert Shaw as the Sheriff of Nottingham. Reasons for marking this one as my favourite: (1) CASTING: All three of the principals above were great actors at the top of their game when they were cast in these roles, and both Hepburn and Shaw play off Connery believably and well. Other characters were given to splendid character actors. Richard Harris beautifully interprets King Richard the Lionheart as a heroic warrior in an advanced state of decay (a "failed hero" as writer James Goldman calls him) and is funny and sad simultaneously. Ian Holm makes the most of his brief scene as King John, playing that monarch with all the twitchy paranoia and dangerous moodiness required of his character. Denholm Elliot makes a decent, fun Will Scarlet. Nicol Williamson is one of my very favourite actors to interpret Little John: kind and gentle one moment, hard and dangerous the next, a simple and loyal friend to Robin. (2) THE STORY & WRITING: James Goldman had a flair for writing beautiful prose and this is not lost in this script. True, the writer condenses almost ten years of history (King Richard's death to King John's England under papal interdict) into what seems to take place in a few months, but one has to give some allowance for dramatic licence. The story adapts some minor episodes from the ballads and so is true to its roots, but where it adds new ideas those ideas are worthy. Nicely done. (3) THE ATMOSPHERE & DIRECTION: Richard Lester was a master of the historical film as his MUSKETEERS trilogy also proved. He had a great sense of humour and this shows in even this often-sombre work. His history can show pageantry but it doesn't forget all the mud and broken cart-wheels either. A nice balance and a believable atmosphere is created. (4) THE MUSIC: John Barry gave us one of his finest romantic film scores for this film and I listen to my CD of the soundtrack all the time. Beautiful. presterjohn1 |
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lady archer |
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Hello PresterJohn,
I haven't had the opportunity to see "Robin and Marian" with Sean Connery and Audrey Hepburn, even though they are some of my favorite actors. And, I just LOVED Nicol Williamson in "Excalibur". He played such a fantastic Merlin. I have had a hard time finding "Robin and Marian" in local stores. I guess I can try Borders Bookstore. And, of course, there's always eBay. :-) Regards, Sarah |
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presterjohn1 |
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Yes, it took me a while to find it in Toronto and the copy I eventually obtained was marked up; the sales clerk said the title was discontinued, at least for now, but I have seen it on eBay since then and many times, usually for decent prices. Well worth it.
I must agree that Nicol Williamson was one of the best features of EXCALIBUR, which is saying a lot because that is also a film that I love dearly. presterjohn1 |
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WoodsyLadyM |
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lady archer |
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I heard that Nicol Willamson and Helen Mirren (Morgana) didn't like each other, despite their flirting thoughout "Excalibur". I thought that was interesting. Yes, "Excalibur" is without a doubt, one of the best films available on the legends of King Arthur. What I appreciated the most was how true "Excalibur" stayed to Mallory's book. Other films such as "First Knight" (even though it had the splendid Sean Connery in it), and the recent "King Arthur" with Clive Owen were dissappointments to me. Anyone out there enjoy RHPOT? I know many didn't like Costner's RH, but if only he had an English accent... but I did like seeing him jump up on trees and shooting his arrows around. Hmmm. Very nice. ;-) Also, Alan Rickman was simply spectacular (and delicious) as the Sheriff. Cary Elwes take on RH in Mel Brooks' RHMIT was great, loved his "At least I can speak with an English accent" comment. Thanks again to you both, for the info. Now I need to go search for "Robin and Marian"! |
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presterjohn1 |
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Re - Nicol Williamson.
From what I have heard, he often gets along poorly with other actors. I remember reading that a few years ago he was in a stage play in which he had so infuriated the actor he was playing opposite that the other actor stormed off stage in the middle of a public performance. The public was very amused when Williamson turned to face the audience, took centre stage and asked, "Well, should I dance?" presterjohn0 |
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WoodsyLadyM |
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Sarah, I'm afraid I'm one of those that didn't like Costner's version of Robin Hood. Even though I thought the supporting cast was great, Costner, being the core of the film, just didn't cut it for me. And it had nothing to do with his accent either, he was just too bland, like he was disinterested in the role. I do agree with your assessment of Alan Rickman though. I like him in just about everything I've seen him in.
I suppose my favorite is still Errol Flynn, although I love Patrick Bergin and if we include TV, Michael Praed. Maria |
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lady archer |
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Re: Nicol Willamson
You wouldn't think he'd be so difficult to work with, as he really seems to connect with the other actors. Perhaps that's just because he's such a great actor. Maria, I think Alan Rickman was born to play the role of the Sheriff; he was so good at being bad. I also love his other films, and that voice! *swoon* As for Costner, well, he is eye candy. At this point I'm now really eager to see "Robin and Marian". Tried to find it at Borders, and sadly, didn't find it. |
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presterjohn1 |
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RE: RH - POT
The best thing about POT was Rickman's sheriff. Nick Brimble's Little John fit the bill nicely though he had little to do really and Michael McShane's Tuck certainly looked and sounded the part quite well enough. Too bad about Costner. I don't hate him as an actor and I am long since over it that he got the part, but he was not right for it. Since the people of the Anglo-Norman period spoke nothing like what we today would call English anyway, pretty much any modern speech pattern or accent could be considered anachronistic, so anywhere you draw the line is entirely subjective. Nevertheless, illogical as it actually is, I would prefer to hear Robin Hood speaking with a British accent. (Maybe Mel Gibson, with his penchant for historical epics like THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST and APOCALYPTO shot in the correct language of the period, can be persuaded to make us a Robin Hood film which shows the language barriers between the native English and the Norman-French-speaking aristocratic classes. You up for that one, Mel?) Well, I confess I'm a little partial to Sean Connery's King Richard costume, but I didn't care too much for Costner's RH costume. The leathery look was understandable, but he looked more like a biker than a pilgrim knight to me. I agree that the late Michael Kamen's music was very good for the film. Kevin Reynolds did a better job on the recent TRISTAN & ISOLDE in my opinion. It was not a great movie as such, but I enjoyed it with few reservations. I certainly enjoyed it more than KING ARTHUR. I didn't mind that the producers tried to stamp the story with their own approach for uniqueness, but even in that they failed. The mystical elements and the introduction of a Moorish character too closely follow the far more innovative work on ROBIN OF SHERWOOD with its magic and the introduction of the Saracen Nasir. The idea of making the Sheriff the principal villain was a good one but inflating his aspirations to assume royal power was quite a stretch even for a campy film like this one. Still, one can take too seriously what was not meant seriously. The fact is it is a fun action picture. Those of us who might have hoped for more at least got the Patrick Bergin ROBIN HOOD the same year and it is in almost every way the better film. presterjohn1 |
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lady archer |
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Re: RHPOT
I've thought that Orlando Bloom would make a great future RH. Maybe even Ryan Phillipe... I think Mel could definitely make a good RH film. But I wouldn't want him to cast a typical Hollywood actress as Marian. That would probably ruin it for me. While I liked Mary Elizabeth Mastriantonio as Marian in RHPOT, I would have prefered the original pick: Robin Wright Penn. Yes, I agree... with the English accent... Reynolds probably could have added in "Nay" and "Aye" and other olde English words to make it seem more authentic, but still understandable to the general, modern audience. I still love to listen to Michael Kamen's music from the film... especially "Maid Marian". I liked Tristian and Isolde. And, I'm happy that they had Isolde as a blonde, which she was. And, I agree with you about the recent "King Arthur" film. I hated it. No courtly love, Merlin was hardly in the film, and Guinevere as a warrior? Ugh. |
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