Why cannot Sir Richard at the Lee be a man of that name? Why look for someone who might fit his description? If the Geste says his name is Sir Richard at the Lee, then surely that is his name.
Rob H
Rob H
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Posts: 314 (08/15/07 02:03:41) |
The fact is that "at the Lee" is clearly a geographical designation. It can as easily be where he lived or where he was born as a family name. A person referred to as "at the Lee" would indeed always be a candidate worth investigating, but a different surname does not preclude him being the same man.
I've seen documents, for instance, that refer to the sons of Edward III as if their birthplaces were surnames, viz. Thomas Woodstock, Edmund Langley, etc., with no "of" or "de". By your implied reasoning, if we didn't know whom these references described and were trying to find out, we should exclude the princes from consideration because their family name was Plantagenet. |
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Posts: 125 (08/15/07 07:40:21) |
I believe there were several Richard at the Lees, including one in the 1260s or thereabouts and one in the Wakefield region in the 1300s.
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Posts: 120 (12/18/07 08:57:43) |
Another thought, re: the distinct possibility that Sir Richard was NOT originally the same person as the distressed knight helped earlier by the outlaws: who
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It has been suggested, in relation to Hunter's theory (though not, if I remember rightly, by Hunter himself), that Henry, Earl of Leicester is a plausible candidate for the 1320s. I found this a little far-fetched, but the idea that the knight might have been somebody the outlaws were predisposed to help because of a political connection is interesting. I'd welcome candidates, for any and all possible eras in which the outlaws may have flourished. |
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Posts: 5 (12/19/07 18:01:47) |
I have studied the use of a last name for a while and the last name would be distinguished by what the person was known for ex: my name way back then would
have been William the butler but to siplify things they would change it to be William Butler.
So the name nowadays would be Sir Richard Lee I will research more on that to see if i can get a connection! 
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