Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (robyn hode) — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:06:47 GMT

so it seems that its another king richard, nottingham tale. pity, i was really hoping it was going to be different. and no will scarlet, fleeting little john apperence. oh well never mind!

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:33:28 GMT

1981Marcus wrote:

The reference to being welcome guests is said by two monks who Robin Hood robs in Yorkshire
No, it's two outlaws whom he rescues in Nottingham. You've confused Munday with the Gest ("For better cheap I might have dined / In Blyth or in Doncaster."

Yes, perhaps you are right. (As usual)

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (1981Marcus) — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:51:05 GMT

The reference to being welcome guests is said by two monks who Robin Hood robs in Yorkshire

No, it's two outlaws whom he rescues in Nottingham. You've confused Munday with the Gest ("For better cheap I might have dined / In Blyth or in Doncaster."

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:25:31 GMT

I think you two are up to something?

The reference to being welcome guests is said by two monks who Robin Hood robs in Yorkshire.

But whatever the case, in all Robin Hood's adventures he has to leave Yorkshire to get to wherever he is going and no-one is saying he didn't get around because we know he did.

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (1981Marcus) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:08:37 GMT

In Munday's Downfall, when Scarlet lists the haunts of himself and his brother during their seven years of outlawry, he names: Sherwood, Barnsdale, Nottingham, Blyth, Tickhill, Bradford, Wakefield, Barnsley, Farnsfield, Kendal, Leeds, Rotherham and Mansfield. Counting Blyth as Nottinghamshire and Tickhill as Yorkshire, in accordance with their current status, that's five Nottinghamshire locations, seven in Yorkshire, and one way up in Westmorland. Some of these are linked...

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:34:14 GMT

OK David, look forward to hearing about it.

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (RobeH) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:28:17 GMT

You mean the 'Robert de Kime 1202' thread I posted? Its from something I was shown just a few hours ago. Have to see what comes of it.

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:36:53 GMT

Blyth Abbey is in Nottinghamshire and Blyth Castle where Ranulf earl of Chester was and if memory serves William de Lovetot also is in Yorkshire. Don't forget Blyth Castle was also known as Tickhill castle, it was a Royal Castle and there was a heck of a lot of activity there around the time of King John by some very notable people.

Anyway what is all this about, I think you have something up your sleeve?

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (RobeH) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:26:17 GMT

What about Blyth?

The ballads list an awful lot of 'special journeys' if that was the case.

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:12:20 GMT

He had to make a special journey to get to Nottingham. He spent his time in and around Yorkshire. The Rhymes list many of the places where he lived and "worked" and they are all in Yorkshire.

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (RobeH) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:57:07 GMT

Um...and?

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:51:26 GMT

My point is that When Robin went to Nottingham he left as soon as he could.

He WENT to Nottingham and he LEFT Nottingham.

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (RobeH) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:25:09 GMT

I've just skimmed through an online version of the Geste, and its pretty clear that the Sheriff is supposed to be a current serving Sheriff of Notts:

The sherif dwelled in Notingham
He was fayne he was agone,
And Robyn and his mery men
Went to wode anone.

Late never my wedded lorde
Shamefully slayne be;
He is fast bowne to Notingham warde,
For the...

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (RobeH) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:09:33 GMT

Oh I see. Sherwood is in the Geste though isn't it? And the rhyme you mention is very early, circa 1400.

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:04:49 GMT

RobeH wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean. Yes I'm aware of the 'Robyn Hod in Scherewode stode' line, and Nottingham/Sherwood etc is heavily featured in all of the ballads.

What's your point?

I have just said, there is not a single mention of...

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (RobeH) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:28:39 GMT

I'm not sure what you mean. Yes I'm aware of the 'Robyn Hod in Scherewode stode' line, and Nottingham/Sherwood etc is heavily featured in all of the ballads.

What's your point?

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:52:15 GMT

RobeH wrote:
All of them? Surely not. I believe Nottingham itself is mentioned many times.

I've always thought both were relevant anyway.

And to think it was you who accused me of arguing!

You know as well as I do that the earliest reference to...

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (RobeH) — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:39:10 GMT

All of them? Surely not. I believe Nottingham itself is mentioned many times.

I've always thought both were relevant anyway.

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:43:29 GMT

Thanks Lady Archer.

Re: The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:35:42 GMT

RobeH wrote:
Do you mean issue of whether RH came from Yorkshire or Nottingham? Well since there is still no agreement over who RH really was, or even if he ever 'was' at all in the historical sense, that's a bit difficult.

I was talking about Robert deliberately misleading people by changing place names. The Rhymes don't identify the man...

The Nottingham film script review

feeds@yuku.com (lady archer) — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:41:26 GMT

I thought my fellow Blue Boar merry mates would be interested in checking out this review for the upcoming Nottingham, directed by Ridley Scott:

http://www.filmick.co.uk/2007/03/script-review-nottingham.html

So the film will have Robin Hood as the antagonist, and the Sheriff as the protagonist! This is going to be interesting! Looks like the film will include the...