Robin in Fiction

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (1981Marcus) — Thu, 01 May 2008 16:09:42 GMT

The thing is, the 1225 guy is just an obscure criminal whose name happened to be Robert Hood. It wasn't an especially unusual name, and it doesn't prove that the name was already legendary - nor did Holt ever claim so: indeed, he tentatively suggested that "Hobbehod" as the ORIGINAL Robin. Holt argued that the Robehod surname was evidence that the legend existed by 1261/2, but that's doubtful. We can't pin it down at any point before 1377.

I agree with you...

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (greenwood archer) — Thu, 01 May 2008 11:07:20 GMT

As far as the Robin hood originating before the 1190s, I'm taking that off of J.C. Holt's assertion in regard to the Robert Hod of the 1225 pipe role, which appears to be oldest mention of a possible Robin Hood. If Robin was legendary in Prince John's time, there would be more mention of him than just on a single pipe role. By John's time, record keeping was more complete. So it would stand to reasonable speculation that the 'legendary' Robin Hood predated the Robert...

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (greenwood archer) — Thu, 01 May 2008 03:02:18 GMT

unless you're arguing that he derives from Hereward

nope.

Marcus, my robin hood scholarship is a bit rusty...been 14 years since I read J.C. Holt's book. I guess I stand corrected. I'll give it a look over again.

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (greenwood archer) — Thu, 01 May 2008 02:55:11 GMT

Has anyone had a chance to read Clayton Emery's The Beast of Sherwood: Tales of Robin Hood?

yes. A little too supernatural for me.

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (1981Marcus) — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:43:51 GMT

The Robin Hood legend goes back farther than the Lionheart era

Unless you're arguing that he derives from Hereward, you must know something the rest of us don't. The first literary mention of Robin Hood dates to 1377, and pre-Major chroniclers place him LATER than the 1190s.

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (greenwood archer) — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:24:41 GMT

Sherwood, by Parke Godwin is pretty much my favorite book abut Robin Hood. It takes the legend and places him farther back in history to 1066 at the time of the Norman conquest. The Robin Hood legend goes back farther than the Lionheart era, so this is believable. After all, I think it was that Scottish historian, John Major, who made Robin royalty and placed him in the 1190s, iirc. My favorite character in this book was not Robin, but Ralph the sheriff.

He even gets the archery...

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (lady archer) — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:34:32 GMT

Once again, thanks, Maria! I bookmarked the site.

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (WoodsyLadyM) — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:30:07 GMT

I have the book but have not read it yet. Go to Emery's website:

http://www.claytonemery.com/RHStories.html

and see if you like his style. His website is a bit confusing but if you go down the page there's a link to his free stories. Among them you'll find some that are about Robin Hood.

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (lady archer) — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:24:07 GMT

Has anyone had a chance to read Clayton Emery's The Beast of Sherwood: Tales of Robin Hood?

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (lady archer) — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:14:05 GMT

Maria, you are a lovely, lovely lady. Thank you for posting those links! *squee!*

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (WoodsyLadyM) — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:35:03 GMT

Pyle - http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/964

Gilbert - http://www.kellscraft.com/Robinhood/robinhoodcontent.html

Creswick - http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/eng/rh/index.htm

McSpadden -

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (lady archer) — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:21:13 GMT

Where, Marcus?

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (1981Marcus) — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 03:28:46 GMT

Incidentally, Pyle, Gilbert, Creswick and McSpadden are all available as free etexts.

Re: Robin in Fiction

feeds@yuku.com (lady archer) — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:38:40 GMT

WoodsyLadyM wrote:
Roberson's Lady of the Forest and Lady of Sherwood are also available directly from Amazon. Looks like they have bodice ripper covers which is really misleading because they aren't that graphic. ;-)

That's a shame - the only reason I really read romance novels are for the graphic bits...