Hunting Lodge in Loxley

Re: Hunting Lodge in Loxley

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:59:08 GMT

Thanks Marcus.

Re: Hunting Lodge in Loxley

feeds@yuku.com (1981Marcus) — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:20:30 GMT

The Earls' Revolt or the fictional uses of de Belleme's name? The revolt was in 1075; Gilbert's novel first appeared in 1912, Vivian's in 1927. Of the many Robin Hood novels which appeared in the twenty-odd years before WWI, Gilbert's is the best I've read. Vivian lifted a lot from it, and his novel in turn became an inspiration for "Robin of Sherwood".

Gilbert's version also, interestingly enough, the first fictional representation I know of...

Re: Hunting Lodge in Loxley

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:04:00 GMT

Thanks Marcus, I got the name wrong. The other things you said are interesting though. What sort of dates are you talking about here?

Re: Hunting Lodge in Loxley

feeds@yuku.com (1981Marcus) — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 13:34:49 GMT

That would be the Earls' Revolt, a plot between Waltheof and the Earls of Hereford and East Anglia. No immediate members of de Belleme's family there, but it's perfectly possible that there was some kind of relationship.

De Belleme, of course, lent his name to a few more recent Robin Hood villains. Isenbart de Belame in Gilbert's "Robin Hood" is referred to as having an infamous grandfather who is clearly supposed to be Robert de Belleme; Isenbart became...

Re: Hunting Lodge in Loxley

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:05:39 GMT

Waltheof was early (Conquest) and that is the period Walter Hall was talking about. I was thinking about Robert of Bellême, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury who belonged to the house of Montgomery with connections in Wales. He seems an interesting character. I wondered who administered Hallam for him, this was in the days of Henry I, when he made quite a commotion and was exiled and I hear stories of Robin Hood killing his Lord. I have often wondered who that might be, probably someone put there by...

Re: Hunting Lodge in Loxley

feeds@yuku.com (1981Marcus) — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:11:12 GMT

There was no Earl of Shrewsbury between 1102 and 1442; presumably he's referring to a period after 1442.

Re: Hunting Lodge in Loxley

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 01:48:58 GMT

Thank you nybor edoh. I notice Walter T Hall mentions that the Earl of Shrewsbury was the local landowner around Hallam and Loxley and this is something I have never investigated but perhaps now may be the time to do it. I don't suppose you know anything about him do you?

Re: Hunting Lodge in Loxley

feeds@yuku.com (Sanctus de Alba) — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:27:51 GMT

You Sir, deserve a medal, in recognition of your thorough research into the Robin Hood legend. Thank you for this most valuable information.
Sanctus de Alba (aka. nybor edoh)

Re: Hunting Lodge in Loxley

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:27:25 GMT

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feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 06:40:41 GMT

Re: Hunting Lodge in Loxley

feeds@yuku.com (Graham P Kirkby) — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:35:45 GMT

The hunting lodge belonging to Waltheof, the Earl of Huntingdon was there at the time of the Norman Conguest but has long gone although there are many others round about as the hunting is very good and people still shoot the grouse today. It was in the village of Hallam, which adjoined the Roman road, known as Long Causey, leading from Buxton to Sheffield to Wattling Street (near Robin Hood's well) and was easily approached from that road. (It is close to...

Re: Hunting Lodge in Loxley

feeds@yuku.com (nybor edoh) — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:52:17 GMT

I don't know when it was built or which Earl of Huntingdon had it built, but I have seen a map which shows where it was located. I wouldn't have thought it is still there now though.

Re: Hunting Lodge in Loxley

feeds@yuku.com (Sanctus de Alba) — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:46:54 GMT

also, is it still there.

Hunting Lodge in Loxley

feeds@yuku.com (Sanctus de Alba) — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:43:50 GMT

Is there any evidence as to when or which earl of huntingdon built a hunting-lodge in this location?